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Old 10-29-2016, 01:38 PM
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Can anyone give me an example of a prophecy with a time frame from scripture that was fulfilled/came true? (Example: this plague will happen in 1 month -- and then it DOES happen.) The only prophecy with a time frame I know of was Ninevah. Jonah said judgement would come in 40 days if they didn't repent. They did repent in sackcloth and ashes (everyone from the least to the greatest), and the judgement was delayed for 100 years.

How about a "modern" prophecy with a time frame that actually came to pass (the last 200 years or so)?

The reason I'm asking is yet another very respected man of God has said he got a message from God that something would happen in a time frame, and when the time frame was up and nothing happened, he said that God gave him a new message that He has delayed judgement because the people prayed. (And the FB followers click the little "Love!" button and say "Praise God!" and "So thankful for His mercy!") In fact, I can name two very well-respected people who did that within the last year.

Is this God's character? Does God threaten and relent, threaten and relent -- all the while keeping the paying-attention-remnant on the edge of their seats in preparation, praying against judgement while the rest of society's morals collapse around their ears? When Ninevah prayed and repented (every single one -- not just a remnant), they got a reprieve of 100 years. We get 11 days? Three months? A year? And then we gear up again because God is still really mad?

I know that God is merciful, but I'm having a hard time making this behavior jive with what I know about God. Can someone help me? And if the answer is "These people AREN'T actually hearing from God," then why are the rest of the Bible-believing Christians still following them? They obviously THINK this is God's character. What am I missing here?

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P.S. 1 Thess 5:20 says "Do not despise prophecies." I see now why God felt the need to mention this.

P.P.S. I tried to post something like this on my FB Christian forum, but the post was not approved. I guess the moderator felt that either the people would flip out or I was somehow being disrespectful to God by questioning...
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Can anyone give me an example of a prophecy with a time frame from scripture that was fulfilled/came true? (Example: this plague will happen in 1 month -- and then it DOES happen.) The only prophecy with a time frame I know of was Ninevah. Jonah said judgement would come in 40 days if they didn't repent. They did repent in sackcloth and ashes (everyone from the least to the greatest), and the judgement was delayed for 100 years.

How about a "modern" prophecy with a time frame that actually came to pass (the last 200 years or so)?

The reason I'm asking is yet another very respected man of God has said he got a message from God that something would happen in a time frame, and when the time frame was up and nothing happened, he said that God gave him a new message that He has delayed judgement because the people prayed. (And the FB followers click the little "Love!" button and say "Praise God!" and "So thankful for His mercy!") In fact, I can name two very well-respected people who did that within the last year.

Is this God's character? Does God threaten and relent, threaten and relent -- all the while keeping the paying-attention-remnant on the edge of their seats in preparation, praying against judgement while the rest of society's morals collapse around their ears? When Ninevah prayed and repented (every single one -- not just a remnant), they got a reprieve of 100 years. We get 11 days? Three months? A year? And then we gear up again because God is still really mad?

I know that God is merciful, but I'm having a hard time making this behavior jive with what I know about God. Can someone help me? And if the answer is "These people AREN'T actually hearing from God," then why are the rest of the Bible-believing Christians still following them? They obviously THINK this is God's character. What am I missing here?

Greek Girl

P.S. 1 Thess 5:20 says "Do not despise prophecies." I see now why God felt the need to mention this.

P.P.S. I tried to post something like this on my FB Christian forum, but the post was not approved. I guess the moderator felt that either the people would flip out or I was somehow being disrespectful to God by questioning...
First of all, sister GOD is merciful and very long suffering and it is not His will that any should perish.... not any. I also do not know of any "time frame/date setting" prophecies that have come to pass in the past 200 years, but maybe someone here can correct us.

Prophecy is a delicate subject for many people and they get all touchy feelie when someone says "thus saith The Lord." It is almost as if they "own" part of the prophecy (have a vested interest in it coming to pass) when it lines up with their own thinking.

Case in point, and I will try not to belabor it.

Folks are very frustrated in America, with good cause. They see the nation collapsing from what it has been and they want change. A man comes along and says he will make it great again, he touches their anger and their pain. Folks believe it because part of them is disgusted and they want prosperity and good times for themselves and their families. Then "prophets" begin to press into that same feeling and end up with a prophecy. Now, don't please misunderstand. I think there is a real strong possibility DT will be elected. But, I do Not believe the false prophecies that claim America will be great again. The blood of 50-70 million (and billions world-wide at the behest and arm twisting of the U.S.) babies screams out from the ground. Pay day is pounding at the door.

So, my point? Prophets can be wrong, believers can be wrong ......we have tons of proof in the bible. And GOD can even send a delusion, a lying spirit, if you will, to those prophets who are Not hearing clearly, studying carefully and abiding strictly by Him and His Word....that means in their public and personal life ie:

1 Kings 22: 22 - 23 "And the LORD said unto him, Wherewith? And he said, I will go forth, and I will be a lying spirit in the mouth of all his prophets. And he said, Thou shalt persuade him, and prevail also: go forth, and do so. Now therefore, behold, the LORD hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of all these thy prophets, and the LORD hath spoken evil concerning thee."


Jesus warned us ie:

Matt 7: 15 "Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

Matt 24: 11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many."


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And if the answer is "These people AREN'T actually hearing from God," then why are the rest of the Bible-believing Christians still following them? They obviously THINK this is God's character. What am I missing here?
Jesus also said:


Matt 24: 24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.


The very elect?

That means, to me, that even believers can be deceived if they are not hearing clearly, studying carefully and abiding strictly by Him and His Word. Believers, some who want the approval of man, rather than GOD's approval will fall into this category. Standing alone, against family, friends, co-workers, acquaintances is a hard thing to do. It takes a lot of courage and sometimes a whole lot of abuse to stand against the tide of others' intimidation. We all need to take heed lest any of us fall.....

P. S. I do not think you are missing anything about GOD's character. HE is not fickle or wishy washy like a person who can not choose a salad dressing at a salad buffet.

And although HE is long suffering, HE will only allow prophets (false ones that is) to deceive for only so long. And then, well......it's toast.

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Old 10-29-2016, 05:42 PM
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I guess..maybe.

Moses prophecy to Pharaoh about each plague?
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I believe it was Isaiah that prophesied that Israel would go into captivity for 70 years. Yes, it was Isaiah.

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And it shall come to pass after the end of seventy years, that the LORD will visit Tyre, and she shall turn to her hire, and shall commit fornication with all the kingdoms of the world upon the face of the earth.
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Perhaps, I am misunderstanding, feel free to correct me if I am wrong.

I do not think Greek Girl is asking whether or not a prophecy is made by a true prophet......and then it comes to pass in some non-specific time frame.

Warning quirky humor/sarcasm next....

It seems to me she (GG) is asking about a prophecy that is given ie: "On Sept 32nd or on Oct 37th or Dec 42nd of this year the sky is going to fall upwards or the moon will be blue." A precise time frame and then it (the prophecy) falls to the ground. And folks still lavish praise on the "prophet."

Sarcasm off. Seriously, I do recall the penalty for giving false prophecy.
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Old 10-30-2016, 11:47 AM
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Yes, HisDoulas. I was asking if there was biblical precedent for time frame prophecies -- so thank you to both Donna and Serena for answering that! -- but I was also asking about modern time frame prophecies.

Does God have His prophets SAY that a terrible calamity will happen within a window and then change His mind based on the prayers of His people? Would He do this TWICE in the same year (by two different prophets)?

That was my question. Thank you so much for helping me with this!

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I cannot remember a single prophecy (thus sayeth the Lord) with a date or time-frame made within my lifetime that has come to pass. I remember so many prophecies about Bush Jr. suspending the elections and staying in office and then there were all of those blood moon prophecies. I think a lot of people confuse prophecy with predictions and then they just go with it. When it doesn't come to pass it usually ends with, "the Lord heard our prayers and granted a reprieve".

On a side note, in light of the recent developments of the FBI re-opening the email case against Hillary because of Weiners laptop, I think there is a possibility that we could see a diversion between now and election day. Hillary is sinking in the latest polls and the elite may actually be worried this time. Ex porn stars coming forward and stating that Donald groped them is probably not going to cut it this time and so I look for something big to occur. I pray that this is not the case, but I know that there is no limit to the evil these people will go to in order to achieve their goals.

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So is speaking "presumptively" in the same category as "prophesying falsely"? The Bible says not to fear those who speak on their own authority (Deuteronomy 18:22), but death is the penalty for a false prophecy (Deuteronomy 18:20). Do these guys get a pass because they heard prophecy in part and ran with it? Do we keep listening to these people?

Spirited1, I sure hope you're wrong about a false flag, but I just listened to a video about that recently. It's the new A Minute to Midnite show with Pastor Steve Aiken: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-dk2jtP3l8.

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Those who have went forward and spoke what God is not saying. They will be accountable. May not be before me, but it surly will before God.

Every idle word.

We also need to remember that for ourselves too.
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Over in Ezekiel 22:30, the verse reads;
I sought for a man among them, that should make up a hedge, and stand in the gap before Me for the land, that I should not destroy it: but I found none.

In this verse God said He had to destroy the land because as a just God, He had to pronounce a penalty on sin. The unsaved of the world are dominated and ruled by the devil---not by God. They bring about judgment upon themselves by their own sin.

Again, the above verse implies that if God could have found someone to stand in the gap and make up the hedge and intercede for the land, He wouldn't have had to bring judgment on the people. Why is this?

God looks for those who will ask Him to hold back judgment and give the unsaved more time to repent and come to the knowledge of the truth.

That doesn't necessarily mean that every single person in a community, government, or nation will be saved. That's true because people still have free choice. But our prayers make it easier for people to yield to God and desire to be saved.

As the election season continues to unfold, praying for those involved doesn't mean we are to pray that the politicians in our favorite political party will be voted into office. We can't judge by political party alone which candidate is best to fill the leadership positions in our nation.

In other words, we don't need to get involved with personalities in praying for our government; we just need to pray that the right candidate be elected to office. We may all have our opinion who is the right one for office, but only God knows for sure.

As long as the devil has the nation in an upheaval, and darkness seems to be suffocating the land, Paul wrote that when we pray, God will deliver us from "unreasonable and wicked men" (I might add women too) 2 Thess 3:1-2; and that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty (1 Tim 2:2).

As far as future judgment concerns our country, have we reached a level of no return? Has God placed us in the same category as Sodom and Gomorrah? The iniquity of those two cities had reached a point of no return before the Lord. The number of righteous people necessary to forestall judgment had been reduced from fifty to ten (Gen 18:32) may have reflected Abraham's awareness both of the intense wickedness of the cities as well as Lot's ineffective witness there. Nothing more could be done; divine judgment and destruction was inevitable.

Are we living on barrowed time here? Is it too late for us as a nation to repent and delay or relinquish divine judgment for our country? Are there certain prophetic timeframes of destruction that can be avoided for a season?
Honestly, I don't know the answers to these question.

One thing I do believe though, is that God is looking for a man (or woman) that should make up a hedge, and stand in the gap before Him for the land, that there would be more time given as not to destroy our nation so that more people can be delivered out of the kingdom of darkness.
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