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Old 10-11-2016, 10:43 PM
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I have listened to this Hollow Earth video and the many remarks about it. I disagree with Jim Wilhelmson in some of his remarks that I'm not going into right now. I have a short video link below that I think you should listen to, it pretty much describes where Jim Wilhemson is coming from.

The Hollow Earth video never once got on the subject of a Flat Earth, and you have Zen Garcia who I believe as one of the best authors and most knowledgeable person on this subject, so I dug into Jim Wilhelmson background on God's creation, and he has a total different outlook on how God created it. Jim sees the earth as a globe and he knows the book of Enoch real well, what confuses me how he see one thing as a Hollow Earth in the scriptures and other thing as a Global Earth.

Well I will leave the Hollow Earth at this point, and I may pick up on it at a later date when I have more information to share, I'm still trying to get more information on this Flat Earth theory, that will convince me that I have been Lied to for the last 70 years.

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Jim Wilhelmsen's FLAT EARTH COSMOLOGY CONFUSION
Published on Jul 15, 2016

Enclosed Cosmology DOES NOT deny the concept the "Heavens" is actually comprised of at least three "heavens", multiple "dimensional layers", etc., but rather, breaks this notion wide open, FAR BETTER than when the "multiple heavens" idea is attempted to be shoe-horned into a Copernican cosmology...

Typically I'm not much of a fan of "youtube response videos", but after watching the video put up yesterday by researcher/author Jim Wilhelmsen titled, "Flat Earth, Why?" I felt compelled to speak up. Firstly, I couldn't even leave a comment on the video, since comments were not made available, but more sadly, the overall tone and attitude of Wilhelmsen in his approach to Flat Earth, and more notably, Christian Flat Earthers (supposedly his brothers and sisters in Christ) was simply, not cool. He is essentially accusing Christians who have found validity in the concept of a Biblical Flat Earth cosmology of being either simply either idiotic in their thinking and ignorant of how to interpret scripture, or just being knowingly deceptive...

That's a pretty heavy charge, and one that is made all the more ironic by the fact that such accusations are coming from the mouth of a man who for years has professed no small amount of controversial ideas himself, preaching from sources such as the Book of Enoch (which many would claim is an act of heresy), a major proponent of the UFO/alien deception idea, and being quite renowned as a believer in HOLLOW EARTH THEORY....

Yet, now he will turn around and accuse Flat Earthers of falling for Satanic Deception, because they are not imbibing the specific cosmological theories/speculations that he believes should be accepted as undeniable fact. It truly grieves me. Mostly because, like SO many others out there in the "Bible prophecy / "fringe" research community", Wilhelmsen somehow fails to recognize how this broader umbrella of "ancient Hebrew enclosed cosmology" actually serves to UNDERSCORE his lifetime of work, and tie it all together in the most incredible ways, (there IS an underworld in Enclosed Cosmology....), instead of contrasting it.

I just, do, not, understand...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfTlaXPuRR0
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Old 10-16-2016, 11:26 AM
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Here is a video that Paul Sandhu made as he was flying in Canada as a passenger in a aircraft, to make his point on the earth being flat. Now I have this to say, I have piloted a Cessna 180 turbo prop plane many time with a licensed pilot instructing me at the controls. On a round earth I would have to continually adjust my altitude say flying at 14,000 ft. that never happened, sure you have to watch your altimeter, but you never have to make major adjustments, like if the earth was a globe. None of this ever came to my attention, until the Flat Earth theory came about.

If you read the comments about this video, why do people get so angry and call Paul with bad names, just because he is expressing his views on the Flat Earth, this don't make since they can believe what they want.

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FLAT Earth Truth vs. Globe Earth lies as seen from a Plane
Published on Oct 14, 2016

The problems of flight across a Globe Earth are so great that these problems themselves are sufficient to prove that the Earth is FLAT. For e.g.. SEA LEVEL is only measurable on a Flat Earth. Yet Sea Level is how Planes apparently maintain their Altitude. This video is based on some of my observations on a recent flight I took that travelled some 1500 miles.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRuHOu2pWzA


Dear Brothers and Sisters please bare with me on this video, I have not view it yet, about the Hollow Earth. But you couldn't have a better group to learn from then Zen Garcia & David Carrico. They are very good authors on the Flat Earth, it should be interesting how they describe Hollow Earth and Flat Earth together. We will talk about this later.

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Hollow Earth- Subterranean Civilizations may be homes to the Nephilim w/ Zen Garcia & David Carrico

Streamed live 15 hours ago

Hollow Earth- Subterranean Civilizations may be homes to the Nephilim w/ Zen Garcia & David Carrico.
Is it filled With Giants, Germans and possibly a whole other world? Conspiracy theorists and researchers would lead you to believer that all this is a possibility. Is there any proof? Is there anything in the Bible that would point to this being true?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1WiJBCT6Ic
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Old 10-18-2016, 10:47 PM
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Here you go does this prove the earth being flat? It's a 2 minute video as the moon moves away from the camera, it must be flat for me.

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Flat Earth - Proof That The Moon is Close And is Moving Away From us!
Published on Oct 18, 2016

Research flat earth at www.DITRH.com

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yw78ZF-z93g




This is a book reading that goes into great depths, explaining much of the Flat Earth. It's a long reading, about 6 hours long very educating, covering things we never though of before. You may want to listen to all, are in part time periods if your interested. Well done in a Christian view point from the scriptures, I like it.

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Flat earth zetetic cosmogony by rectangle, a contemporary of parallax

Published on Oct 17, 2016

a full reading, this is part 1 (about the first half of the book)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBk_PfqEzlw




OK we have some young people discussing the Flat Earth and other subject matter. They don't relate this to God, but I find they represent much of the world as it is today, and still believe they have plenty of time, to see big changes in the world they live in, unaware of how close we are to the return of Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior.

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Flat Earth Talk with Intelligent Young Adults
Published on Oct 18, 2016

Here's a chat with my new found friends that I met after becoming a flat earther. Hero just turned 19 and Leo is 20 years old. They were barely being conceived around the time of Tupac's death just to put it into perspective. Seeing these young men being awake at that age is just beautiful to me. I think they are bright and worth listening to, but don't listen if you don't want. Nobody's forcing you. We will be touching on political subjects and a whole lot of flat earth. Thanks for your time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7CCBOtjfKw
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Old 10-25-2016, 09:57 PM
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Short video showing satellites are a hoax, Hummmmm.

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2 MINUTE PROOF OF SATELLITE HOAX by Captain Obvious (2 Minute New Trailer for Channel)
Published on Oct 25, 2016

In less than 2 minutes you will know that satellites in orbit do not exist. Nasa lies about everything. The new 2 minute trailer proving nasa is one big movie studio and the earth is flat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HH-kbHrHUWY
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Old 10-27-2016, 08:46 AM
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Good video arrowcreek. I also can't imagine how the earth could be spinning over 1000 mph. It just doesn't add up. Especially when you look up at the sky at night and the stars don't move.
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Old 10-29-2016, 09:51 PM
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I think you will like this presentation, a 3000 year old Book of the Heavenly Luminaries, and how it lines up with other written text that are not as old. These books have been lost are hidden for centuries, long before our Bible existed, yet they match-up in many ways, how can this be? Enjoy

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3000 Year Old Text, Most Accurate Description Of Earth Ever! How? Flat Earth

Published on Oct 3, 2016

The most advanced scientific knowledge ever disclosed, was done over 3000 years ago by Enoch, in this, the 'Book of the Heavenly Luminaries', or, in contemporary terms the Book Of The Stars. How could he, (a desert dweller 3000yrs ago), have known this? If God isn't real, how did Enoch come up with this? Why does it so perfectly match up with all the other texts at the time like: the Book of Giants, the Qumran caves texts, the dead sea scrolls, and the Manichaean texts? Skeptics, I guess, will say he dreamed it all up, but then how do they explain away ALL of the prophetic events of this and many other texts that came true? The Book of Revelations? the OT's knowledge of the earth? the coming of Jesus? (it's funny people refute that, as there are many people who reported being there, seeing him crucified, read the "Gospel of Nicodemus" for one example) the perfect descriptions of the divisions of the year? , the peoples of the earth and their genealogies, the perfect matchup with our knowledge of the oldest cultures and languages?... and/or the (still to this day) perfect descriptions of WORLDWIDE natural phenomena and plant species? Lucky guesses!? What would be the odds against GUESSING to such an extent? ....astronomical...lol. This book has, and will continue to, stand the test of time. It's accuracy and elegant simplicity will fly in the face of all scrutiny. All those who doubt the power of the holy bible, and it's perfect truth, will be amazed to utter beguilement.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-MVb5gz7ckk
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Old 10-31-2016, 09:20 PM
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Again I'm posting this video and having not finished listening to all it yet. But with Zen Garcia and Dean Odle it's sure to be good. I got to the part where pastor Dean Odle was giving his testimony how he got saved, it is really interesting. This is my first time hearing his Flat Earth theories, so I'll make sure to listen to the remaining portion of the video.

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Dean Odle - God's Flat Earth & the Firmament of His Power
Published on Oct 31, 2016

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ks9Sqt_xS48

Here is a video with Eric Dubay, he was mentioned in this thread before, I do not know if he is a Christian, some of the language they speak makes me think not. He does have some very good comments on the Flat Earth that I agree with him on, but I all so disagree with him on others things, like Nuclear Weapons Don't Exist. I have proof they do exist, because I was a Nuclear Specialist in the Military, working with these Weapons with my crew on a daily bases.

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The Lie We Live - Life Changing Flat Earth Interview
Published on Oct 31, 2016

The ground-breaking interview between Greg Carlwood of Higherside Chats and International Flat Earth Research Society President Eric Dubay, has now been remixed and remastered in HD by ODD Reality. Please share this important video everywhere you can and subscribe to ODD.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHmcI76WOk0

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Old 11-06-2016, 07:45 PM
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Dear Brothers and Sister I think you will like this video with Mark Sargent. because it makes good sense of what we see every day, but never give it a though that we live on a Flat Earth. Interesting to listen to other people waking up to all the lies we have been taught, and now see a our Earth in it's true perspective, as God our creator made it. Enjoy

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The globe model is a prison - Flat Earth opens everything - SW73 - Mark Sargent ✅
Published on Oct 5, 2016


Are we inside a Truman show enclosed world, thousands of miles wide? This is part of a series of videos that shows not only is it possible, but likely.

The Flat Earth awakening is the biggest story to hit this world in Millennia. I am humble to be just a part of this massive force of truth, one that's going to change the world and how you live forever. This new site is dedicated to everything that is real and true about the place where you live, a place that has until now, been hidden from you. Join me in rediscovering the awesome power and potential of our civilization. Together we can take back the secrets and knowledge, and become great again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZuclxcqpVY
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Old 11-11-2016, 09:36 PM
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What we have is a study of How Rainbows bend, well I never did give it much thought, because I just related it with God showing a Rainbow to Noah and family after the Great Flood, as a promise to not destroy Earth again by water. We can see here there are many more verses in the bible explaining Rainbows.

You will find also, listed below two other videos TigerDan did, I like his material on a Flat Earth, so far I fine him creditable, and interesting, even with his speaking accent he comes across clearly and understandable. I will listen to more of his videos and Post them here with my comments, and you can do the same as we uncover old and new material on the Flat Earth Subject. Enjoy

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How Rainbows bend. Sun Prism THEORY on a Flat earth
Published on Oct 11, 2015

New sun Prism Theory works on a flat earth and proves the sun is a lot closer to earth than we're told. Rainbows, Sun Holos, Sun Dogs, bend curve explained, tested and experimented on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIZ_...4fu3ryeCle029o

75 bible verses prove a flat earth
Published on Oct 2, 2015

*****I NO LONGER BELIEVE THE EARTH IS FLAT.***** Updates coming in the future. Consider the information in this video carefully. Make your own mind up what you think. Thank you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?annota...&v=JCqThIOc4QQ




25 Flat Earth claims that 'Rocked' my world view. 1/5

Published on Aug 9, 2015

Flat Rock subjects covered: Moon and stars. Earth Photos. Professors. Exact curve. Earth spin. Critics debunked. Geocentrism. Heliocentrism. Flat Earth. Concave Earth. Hollow earth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?annota...&v=4WPBDte2AfY
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Old 11-13-2016, 07:26 PM
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Dear Brothers and Sisters, if this don't convince you that they lied to us, then nothing will change your mind, listen very carefully as Hillary speaks at the 40 second time mark, as she mocks God's Flat Earth Firmament " The Glass Ceiling " during her concession speech. Read the comment that John made below I could not put it any better then he did.

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Yeah I commented on Hilary saying this. Isn't this so obvious to those in the know, all these elitist devil worshipers know we are in an enclosed system and they mock the public with their semi hidden comments and signs. Breaking through the glass ceiling has always been the goal hasn't it? Getting back to paradise lost. From the time of Nimrod to when they tried to blow up the dome in the 50s and 60s, they have tried to achieve this.

Hillary Clinton Mocks God's Flat Earth Firmament "Glass Ceiling" During Concession Speech

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9nq4cPLcs0
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